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		<title>`Double Margarita` Presidential Debate Live Blog</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having just returned from a trip to my favorite Mexican restaurant and a conservative (of course) serving of adult beverages, I will be offering my comments on the first Presidential debate between candidates John McCain and Barack Obama, as it happens. Now that the debate is over, click &#8220;Continue reading&#8230;&#8221; then jump to the bottom [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having just returned from a trip to my favorite Mexican restaurant and a conservative (of course) serving of adult beverages, I will be offering my comments on the first Presidential debate between candidates John McCain and Barack Obama, as it happens.</p>
<p>Now that the debate is over, click &#8220;Continue reading&#8230;&#8221; then jump to the bottom of this article and start reading. My comments are listed chronologically, from bottom to top.</p>
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<p><strong>Wrap-up: </strong>This was a very spirited debate; a much better format than previous events. The edge has to go to McCain because of his experience and knowledge on foreign affairs. At times, Obama seemed flustered and frustrated; primarily because McCain kept him on the defensive. McCain dinged Obama several times on his record re spending.</p>
<p>Pundits giving a slight edge to McCain; at least, on Fox.</p>
<p><strong>10:36 &#8211; </strong>Obama: &#8220;We are going to `invest` in issues like education&#8230;&#8221; (I hate that term &#8220;invest.&#8221; It isn&#8217;t an &#8220;investment;&#8221; it is an expenditure of tax dollars that were taken from me.)</p>
<p><strong>10:27 &#8211; </strong>McCain re potential for 9/11-type attack again: &#8220;Much less than the day after 9/11.&#8221; McCain boasted of working &#8220;across the aisle&#8221; with Leiberman et al to enact legislation to minimize opportunity for repeat attack. Obama: the biggest threat that we face now is a terrorist getting his hands on a suitcase bomb. We need missile defense, but we need to spend more on preventing nuclear proliferation. We also need to focus on Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan.</p>
<p>Obama: &#8220;I intend to restore America&#8217;s standing in the world.&#8221; McCain: &#8220;Senator Obama still doesn&#8217;t seem to get it&#8221; that Al-Qaeda would be emboldened by a U.S. defeat in Iraq. Opposed specific dates of withdrawal.</p>
<p>Obama: Criticized Bush administration for its focus on Iraq while other issues brewing. &#8220;We have weakened our ability to project influence around the world&#8230;&#8221; because of focus on Iraq.</p>
<p>McCain: Obama&#8217;s failure to acknowledge success of surge exhibits a stubbornness and lack of flexibility that isn&#8217;t appropriate for a President.  Emphasized two-plus decades of experience. &#8220;I don&#8217;t think that I need any `on the job` experience.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>10:19 &#8211; </strong>McCain: &#8220;I looked into Mr. Putin&#8217;s eyes and I saw three letters: K-G-B.&#8221; Said Obama was exhibiting naivete when he said that both Russia and Georgia should &#8220;show restraint.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>10:15 &#8211; </strong>McCain deriding Obama for his mischaracterization of Henry Kissinger&#8217;s words re negotiations with Iran. (&#8220;Meeting Iran without pre-conditions is such a lame political issue.)</p>
<p>Obama is holding his own, but only barely. On Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran, McCain&#8217;s experience and knowledge shines through. Obama getting a little flustered; resorting to parsing of Henry Kissinger&#8217;s words re meeting with Iran.</p>
<p><strong>10:05 &#8211; </strong>McCain: Iran poses a threat not only in Iraq but around the world.</p>
<p>Somebody should be counting the number of times that Obama says, &#8220;Senator McCain is absolutely right.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>9:51 &#8211; </strong>Obama: a strategic mistake to concentrate more troops in Iraq than in Afghanistan. McCain: Will not repeat mistake to abandon Afghanistan after Russia was routed. &#8220;We can&#8217;t ignore those lessons of history.&#8221; Will not threaten Pakistan as has Obama: &#8220;You don&#8217;t do that; you don&#8217;t say that out loud.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>9:44 &#8211; </strong>Obama: surge (in Iraq) was a tactic to cover up failures of previous four years. McCain: &#8220;I am afraid that Mr. Obama doesn&#8217;t understand the difference between a tactic and a strategy.&#8221; &#8220;Senator Obama refuses to acknowledge that we are winning in Iraq&#8230;.&#8221; Obama: &#8220;That&#8217;s not true.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another &#8220;Senator McCain is right.&#8221;</p>
<p>McCain slammed Obama hard on his flip-flopping on Iraq. Obama had no defense other than to generally criticize the war.</p>
<p><strong>9:36 &#8211; </strong>McCain opposed to handing healthcare system over to federal government. Challenged Obama to cut spending by starting with his own programs.</p>
<p>Obama: You have sided with Bush 90% of time. McCain countered that his reputation for opposing Bush is well known on a long list of topics.</p>
<p>Obama sounding like a whiner. McCain sounding more &#8220;Presidential,&#8221; but has missed several opportunities to zing Obama.  He&#8217;s too nice; too honest.</p>
<p><strong>9:31 &#8211; </strong>How many times is Obama going to say, &#8220;John is right&#8221; ?</p>
<p>McCain: Spending freeze on all except national defense, spending for veterans. Obama wants to increase spending for early childhood education; save money by bringing Iraq war to close.</p>
<p><strong>9:29 &#8211; </strong>McCain: We have to do something about spending. Government is completely out of control. Obama has the most liberal record in Congress&#8230; it is hard to reach across the aisle from that far to the left. (Obama laughed.) &#8220;We will have to scrub every department of government.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>9:22 &#8211; </strong>McCain re Obama&#8217;s tax increases on the rich: &#8220;People might be interested in Obama&#8217;s definition of &#8216;the rich&#8217;.&#8221; Obama argued against tax cuts.</p>
<p>McCain comparing his record re spending against Obama&#8217;s. Obama can&#8217;t reply; he doesn&#8217;t have much of a record. McCain: Obama has voted for tax increases on people making as low as $42K. Obama denied.</p>
<p><strong>9:14 -</strong> McCain: &#8220;We Republicans came to power to change government, and government changed us.&#8221; (Re spending and earmarks). McCain pulled out a pen, promised to veto every spending bill that comes across his desk and to name legislators who seek earmarks. Obama: &#8220;Senator McCain is absolutely right&#8230;&#8221; (re earmarks). Obama claimed to suspend earmark requests for his state. Criticized McCain&#8217;s tax cuts ($300 billion worth), compared to $18 billion in earmarks in last year&#8217;s budget. McCain: $932 million in earmarks (requests) by Obama during his term.</p>
<p><strong>9:11 &#8211; </strong>Jim Lehrer cajoling candidates to confront each other during five-minute discussion between each question. So far, neither taking the bait.</p>
<p><strong>9:08 &#8211; </strong>What about the bailout plan? Obama: We haven&#8217;t seen it yet. Question: How did we get here in the first place? Obama said that he tried to solve problem two years ago. McCain: I also warned about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, corporate greed, etc. But there is an issue of corporate responsibility. &#8220;We have lost&#8230; accountability&#8230;&#8221; Criticized greed and corruption in Washington and on Wall Street.</p>
<p><strong>9:04 First question: </strong>Where do you stand on the financial crisis? Obama: oversight, none to CEO bank accounts, possibility for taxpayers to get money  back.  Expected jab at Bush, link to McCain. McCain: hat tip to Ted Kennedy, who is ill. &#8220;We have a lot of work to do (re financial crisis).&#8221;</p>
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<p>8:09 &#8211; <a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream1" target="_blank">CNN live stream</a>. Can&#8217;t tell if they are streaming the debate live or not. <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/18/politics/2008debates/main4457570.shtml?tag=mncol;txt" target="_blank">CBS debate webcast here</a>. You can also watch the debate right here on my home page. Check the column to the right.</p>
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